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Some Phone Calls Are Just Hard To Make....

 Despite what your popular infomercial of the day has to say, it ain't easy giving bad news.  And it's not in my nature to take advantage of it.  I wrote a post not too long ago about a transaction that turned real dead, real fast, after the appraisal came back.  An adjustable rate came due, yet they couldn't do a thing...

Adjustable Rates were a popular phenom and always will have their place.  I didn't make them that original loan but I followed up like a madman to try to make sure I'd make them the next, and hopefully, final loan they'd ever need.  This story is like many others though, they were credit challenged and equity poor two years ago, they took a lower rate on adjustable terms to get a lower payment...with the idea of things would turn around.  Things didn't turn around.  Still falling behind on their mortgage, I had spoken to them 6 months after they entered that transaction...haven't let go of them since.

When the the time came that their rate adjusted (higher, which it almost always will be with these programs), I was there trying to work with them to see if there was a way out.  They were finally on-board and an appraisal was done...so was their transaction.  Turns out, they had no equity at all and their credit didn't do them any favors.  So, even though the phone call sucked to make, and I heard tears on the other end as we spoke, I had to give them the best advice I knew how to give them.

Many of you, across the states, may be in the same boat.  You have no equity (you owe what your house is worth and maybe even more than what your house is worth)  and your credit isn't anything to write home to Mom about, despite the fact that was the program you entered trying to correct things in your financial life.  If this is you, in any way, let me give you an alternative means of trying to situate the situation.

* Call the Company Who Currently Holds Your Mortgage!  Trust me on this, they are not in the business of owning houses, especially ones there is not equity in.  If your rate is starting to adjust and you realize you have no equity to refinance out of it into a fixed rate situation and won't realistically be able to afford the payments, call themCall them now!  If you are still reading this, you should of already dialed their number.  The worst thing you can do when dealing with creditors is to lack on the communication thing.  Explain your situation, professionally and  persistently and work out something that works for both of you.  That is, in my estimation, the best way in this situation to make things work.  If they are a smart lending entity and you are a consumer of your word, things can and will be worked out.

Banks hate balances that exceed what their collateral is worth, lenders dislike when they aren't being paid.  Both feel the same about the matter, use it to your advantage!  There is breathing room...just remember to breath and to communicate.  Do both with integrity and there will be plenty of air for us all...

 

 

 

32 commentsJason Sardi, Mortgage Banker • July 10 2007 09:35PM

Comments

Excellent Post.  I give it a 5 and a flag.  Communication can make the difference.
Posted by Randy L. Prothero - Hawaii REALTOR® (Century 21 Liberty Homes) over 2 years ago
As an appraiser I often get "blamed" when borrowers can't get the appraised value they need.  However, I like the fact that you advise to be proactive in maintaining ones mortgage.  It can mean the difference of fore closing or keeping ones home.  
Posted by Jeremy Cowin (Jeremy Cowin Appraisals) over 2 years ago
Jason Thank you for the Post.  Borrowers need to know that the lender could possibly help them work through the difficulty. 
Posted by Stacie Jordan (Walgreens Optioncare) over 2 years ago
That was a good post Jason!  Helpful info that all of us could use... and should use if we have customers in the same situation.
Posted by Kakra Goodloe (k&p Processing Services) over 2 years ago
Ditto!! Very good post and great advice.
Posted by Tom Engelhardt (First Choice Mortgage) over 2 years ago
Man! You wanna talk about really relevant and practical advice to consumers in financial difficulties! Great stuff, Jason!
Posted by Rich Jacobson Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Agent (Windermere West Sound, Inc.) over 2 years ago

Jason.... I would have to say that this was one of your better blogs ever written. I agree with all comments. Excellent post and Excellent advice.

Again, as many of us have stated, we need to write more about this, to educate the consumer. So many either don't know or just think it can't happen. Again, great advice.

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Posted by Jeff Belonger -- The FHA Expert.com -- FHA Loans -- FHA mortgages - USDA loans (Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc) over 2 years ago

Randy - In my mind, it's all about communication...whether it be good or bad news.  Thanks.

Jeremy - Thanks for weighing in, I would love to have appraisers weigh in more heavily on these and other topics here on AR. 

Stacie - Agreed, even lenders have a diplomatic bone or two in their bodies:-)

Kakra & Tom - Thank you and I hope this helps in some facet with anybody in a similiar situation you encounter.

Rich - It's practical and timely advice which the consumer needs but oft-times is replaced by jargon and terms they don't understand.  Thanks for stopping by, it is always nice to have a bit of soul....:-)

Jeff - Much appreciated amigo.  Education is so very key and it is up to us individually and collectively to help break down the barriers and open the doors...

Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) over 2 years ago
A+, Jason, 5 and flagged.  I'd gladly trust you with any of my clients, and that's the highest compliment I can give you in public.  ;o)
Posted by Sarah Cooper (Real Estate Shows) over 2 years ago
And that means a great deal Sarah! 
Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) over 2 years ago

Great job, Jason.

Solid advice and empathy.

5 and a flag here too!

Posted by Mike Jaquish Cary, NC, Real Estate (KELLER WILLIAMS® Realty) over 2 years ago

Is this the Jason Sardi appreciation society meeting? LOL  I guess I'm flagging and rating a big fat 5 too. 

Posted by Chris Elizabeth Griffith ~ Bonita Springs Fl Real Estate (Downing-Frye Realty, Bonita Springs, FL) over 2 years ago

Jason,

Excellent post! You really put together a great piece for consumers, I would do business with you! :)

Posted by Suzanne Sands-Somerset, MA Real Estate (Century 21 Associates Realty) over 2 years ago

Jason,

I keep hearing these stories about the consumer not understanding what they are getting into..they just want to see the low rate..but do not realize it usually is only for a short period then it could jump to a ridiculous point...good job to inform the consumer to really understand not to just look at the rate but the terms too. good to post in localism.

Posted by Neal Bloom-Realtor ® Assoc.-CRS-Weston FL (Keller Williams Properties) over 2 years ago

Excellent post!  Communication with the lender is always the best advice - your response, however, will depend greatly on who your current lender is and who you speak with at the company.

I have seen many lenders take hard stances against the client when there is no logical reason for doing so.  Some of them will not even try to work things out until you are already late on the mortgage!  Can you say bad customer service?

Keep 'em coming, Jason.

Posted by Steven Shewell, The Mortgage Maverick (Primary Residential Mortgage, Inc.) over 2 years ago
Jason - What a wonderful, timely post.  I just had a listing that died---poor communication that started too late.  The people just gave up.  I worked harder than they did to help them keep their home.  Unfortunately, I think I wanted it more than they did.  The home was sold at auction a couple of weeks ago.  Really sad.  Thanks for laying out a pragmatice plan of action for people who find thenselves in this situation. 
Posted by Laguna Homes|Laguna Condos| Laguna Real Estate|Marlene Bridges (Sherman Smith & Associates) over 2 years ago
Very good information. That should always be their first step in that situation. Nice post!
Posted by Shawn Gerhardson Minnesota's Home Mortgage Loan Expert (Mortgages Unlimited) over 2 years ago

Jason

This is a great post - gave it a 5 - should be a feature.  What  excellent consumer information. How many times do consumers know they can know longer handle the loan payments and instead of contacting the lender, just stop paying the mortgage. Many times is because they just don't know what to do. I bet you helped many today.

Sandra

Posted by Guilford Connecticut Real Estate Agent, Sandra Cummings (William Raveis Real Estate) over 2 years ago
Great post...   If only clients would listen.   So many are embarrassed when they get behind they aren't "candid" with you and feel no way out of a bad situation.   By the time you or I give them advise they are in too deep... at-least thats been my experience with sellers lately.
Posted by Desiree Daniels (RE/MAX Tri County) over 2 years ago

Mike - Thanks, I think empathy is ultra-important.

Chris - Lol, you're too much:-)

Suzanne - Ditto!

Neal - There's a lot of it out there for sure, our job is to educate, educate, educate. 

Steven - I hear you there.  In my opinion, those lenders who refuse to work with a consumer out of the shoot are practicing bad business.

Marlene - Thank you for you're insight!

Shawn - It is so simple, yet so often not done.

Sandra - I hope, I can only hope. 

Desiree - I've seen this happen way too often, all we can do is offer our insight and help...it is up to the individuals whether they want to take it or leave it.

Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) over 2 years ago
Jason: So well said, and with such heart. Obviously you really cared, and that is so important. I had this happen to one client last year and it broke my heart. I only wish we could give kids that are just starting out advice that would allow them to make better credit decisions. Having said that, there were plenty of people trapped in the declining value/adjustable loan situation. I always say that adding poor credit is the 3rd stike...they're out. (unfortunately)
Posted by Janet Guilbault California Mortgage Banker/Broker over 2 years ago
Jason, Once again great post!  It is tough to give bad news but when you deliver it with a potential solution like you outline here at least they know you are trying to help them!
Posted by Rey Gallegos Mortgage Loan Officer Las Vegas, NV (A Mortgage Bank) over 2 years ago

Janet -  Agreed Janet, I really do wish we would have more of our curriculum in high school geared towards credit & mortgage understanding.  I think that could make a great impact.

Rey - Thanks Rey, it is tough...nature of the beast though.

Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) over 2 years ago

Hey Jason,

I did just what you said, and when my client called their lender, they were told they are just a servicer of loans, but they would refer them to their mortgage dept who will be glad to Refi them, in a nut shell after two days of working on it, they got No where, I do think you are right though, but I am so tired of these banks hiring flunkies to do work for them...

Thanks,

Tom Weiss

Posted by Thomas Weiss (Thomas R. Weiss) over 2 years ago

communication is always key in our business

 

good post

Posted by Dominick gaccino over 2 years ago

Tom - I am going to be on a conference call with my clients and their current mortgage holder tomorrow, they accepted my invite to help even though I couldn't help them directly per se.  Whatever the outcome, I'll post an update of what happens.

Dominick - True, true.

Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) over 2 years ago
A great piece of writing and one that warrants people paying attention to. How sad that people just don't seem to want to face the problem down and get a resolution. Life can be a crapshoot but even then, you can't just stand at the craps tables and hold the dice. Wonderful writing and great advise.
Posted by San Diego Real Estate Voice authored by William Johnson (RE/MAX Associates) over 2 years ago

Jason, not even one of those broker terms 'you guys' like to use to confuse people like me ? :^).

 

EXCELLENT ADVICE FOR THE PUBLIC... JUST EXCELLENT.

Posted by Rob Robinson- Lehigh Valley PA (Bertrum Settlements (Title & Abstract)) over 2 years ago
Great Post!  If in this business long enough, we will all come across a client with this situation.  Calling their lender should always be the first thing they do after being turned down to refinance.  Communication is  the key.  Thanks for the wonderful post.
Posted by Monica Simonsen (CalTex Lending) over 2 years ago

As always William, thanks for your insight and for stopping by.

Rob -  Was this simple enough:-)?

Monica. - Thank you so much.  I have a conference call with them and their current mortgage holder Monday morning.  I will let everyone know how it turns out.

Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) over 2 years ago

Fear holds so many people from making that call and it really can help. I always tell my clients what is the worst that can happen, they say NO? Then you've wasted 10 minutes of your time, but if they say yes! You have just saved $20,000 or more, is that worth 10 minutes?

Posted by Todd Clark (Broker) (503)524-9494 (Beaverton, Oregon Real Estate Expert) (Palazzo Realty Group) over 2 years ago
As I did not take the time to read everyone's comments, please forgive me if I reiterate something having already been said.  My biggest thought on the communication factor is this ~ treat the lender with a great measure of respect.  The old saying, "You are sure to get more flies with honey than with vinegar", is 120% true.  The banking institutions have heard all of the excuses before.  They have dealt with jack a$$es who blame everyone but themselves, they have seen it all, and heard it all, and most of it was all a lie in the first place!  Be kind, be honest, and be patient.  What we do unto others is done unto us...eventually!  Stay true, and it will work out!  In the long run, what do you have to loose?
Posted by Sarah Eubanks ~ Preferred Oregon Loan Consultant & Notary Public (Hill Valley Financial Services) over 2 years ago

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