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Loosening The Purse Strings, A Rare Product These Days For Investors!

This post will hopefully prove to be helpful information on two fronts.  First, this is really good news for Real Estate Investors who for whatever reason have a hard time documenting their income.  Second, I'm going to throw a bone out to other Mortgage Folks out there as to a Niche Investor that can place some loans that you may have a difficult time in placing.

This is a reminder that I am still doing Stated Income on Investment PropertiesThere is no seasoning requirements for this product.  This will come in especially handy for folks who have been buying properties with cash or rehabbing them who want to turn around and take cash-out immediately.

ATTENTION REAL ESTATE INVESTORS!

SISA (Stated Income, Stated Asset): We can finance you up to 75% cash-out of the appraised value with a 700 score.  If you simply want to do a rate/term refinance or purchase another investment property, they will go to 75% LTV with 680 scores or higher.

SIVA (Stated Income with Verifiable Assets...6 months PITI reserves required):  PITI reserves mean 6 months of your principal & interest payment on your mortgage along with the taxes and homeowner's insurance.  An example is if your Principal & Interest mortgage payment is $800.00, your real estate taxes are $150/month and your homeowner's insurance is $50.00/month.  So, your total PITI (not to be confused with Pity;-) is $1000.00.  You would need at least $6,000.00 in reserves in the bank or in a retirement or investment account.  With this product, we can do a no-seasoning cash-out refinance down to a 680 score.

 

Sure, the LTV's are low but there are property investors out there looking to capitalize on the soft housing market in some areas and may need liquidity from their non-liquid assets to take full advantage of current market conditions.

And for all you Mortgage Folks out there, my rep for this Investor is relatively new to Active-Rain.  Her name is Beth Forbes and I've known her for 7 years, since I came to the Lehigh Valley.  If you click here, you will be sent to her AR Profile and also have her contact info.  They can do loans in many states so give her a shout and check out her blog.  And if she has any negative things to say about little old me, she's probably right ;-)

Jason Sardi

Mortgage Consultant

First Choice Equity Group Inc.

610-439-2166 ext. 229

jsardi@fcegi.com

 

 

 

22 commentsJason Sardi, Mortgage Banker • April 11 2008 02:32PM

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Great information Jason. Thanks for letting us know that those loan products are still available. BTW, "Seisining" in the way you are using it, is spelled like this.
Posted by Lisa Lambert, Esq. (1031 Exchange Expert) (1031 Exchanges - Asset Preservation, Inc.) about 1 year ago
Wow.... Never realized retirement savings could be used as reserves.  Guess I'm still in denial that anyone with 25% down and a decent credit score would have trouble financing their purchase.
Posted by Dan Cummings - Connecticut's Running Realtor (Raveis Real Estate) about 1 year ago

Lisa - Ok, you lost me with the "Seisining" thing:-)

Dan - If they are buying an investment property and can't document their income (show capacity to pay the loan back)....yeah, it's not an easy loan to do.  The risk factor is high, we aren't talking primary residences here.

Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) about 1 year ago
Honestly, I'm afraid to even ask her about you :-) I suspect I don't want to know. But I do wonder whether she's licensed in Oregon for this program??
Posted by Allentown PA Real Estate Broker * Jennifer Monroe * about 1 year ago
Jason, good to know. Are you doing many of these loans right now? I'm finding investors out here still being pretty cautious?
Posted by Greg Knowles Santa Barbara Ca. (Fidelity National Title Group-Santa Barbara) about 1 year ago
Jason - I think that as the market starts to turn, we may see ltvs up to 80%. Hope all is well.
Posted by SHAUN WREN (LICENSE IS NOT PLACED) about 1 year ago
It's amazing that more and more of these products are starting to resurrect here.
Posted by Larry Bettag - Cherry Creek Mortgage about 1 year ago

Jennifer - I'm sure you know I'm an open book, she won't tell you anything you don't already know.  MWA!

Greg - I haven't done one of these particular loans for at least 8 months now.  The product seems to make sense and is priced accordingly. 

Shaun -  Hey man, good to see read ya!  In my honest estimation, I don't mind the purse strings loosening from the perceived extreme they seem to be at, yet some of the products of the past were pretty ridiculous.  I hope to never re-visit that aspect either.

Larry - I'm anxious to hear what you think.  To me, I'd offer this kind of loan all day along.  Especially if it was my money.

Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) about 1 year ago
Jason,  Very interesting.  I knew these were available, but...  Some great information.  Thanks!!
Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI - Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) about 1 year ago
This is good information.  I still hate stated income, is that just believing someone else's story without checking it out? 
Posted by Robert Machado, CPM MPM Sacramento Area Property Manager and Property Management (HomePointe Property Management, CRMC) about 1 year ago

Marc - It's about time, eh?  Always nice hearing from you amigo!

Robert - I do know what you mean.  I'm not a huge fan of stated income loans, but they are a product needed by some.  And some of them actually make sense.  As long as they make sense and are priced accordingly, I feel it is a Win-Win.

Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) about 1 year ago
I think with the parameters set forth that it becomes a definite no brainer.  However, I do wonder about the "slippery slope" you know?  AHM was so agressive in being the first to get into a certain profiles, but now....they're gone.  You programs do seem prudent and responsible, but after all that I've seen jump back in the market recently, I wonder who's going to join in and expand to another dangerous level.
Posted by Larry Bettag - Cherry Creek Mortgage about 1 year ago
Larry - I totally understand you there, we are on the same page.  I'm hoping the 'players' involved will learn and not repeat past mistakes.
Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) about 1 year ago
This is a really good product - if you have an Investment Property meetup.com group in your area you should go and give them this info!
Posted by Eleanor Thorne 919-649-5057 Cary Mortgage Loans (First Financial Services, Inc) about 1 year ago
I'll look them up Eleanor, thanks!
Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) about 1 year ago

Jason,

Question ...although there are no seasoning issues with the investor...what about if the investor turns around and tries to sell it to a consumer...I gather the consumer might have a seasoning issue for 3-6 months to justify lending them the money based on why the investor got it lower and can turn it over at a premium in a short period of time?

Posted by Neal Bloom-Realtor ® Assoc.-CRS-Weston FL (Keller Williams Properties) about 1 year ago

Sardi

Are you limited to Pennsylvania, or where can you lend?

Posted by Bill Nazur (Nazur Enterprises, Inc. An Advisory Firm; Corona Mortgage) about 1 year ago
Good to know that stated income is still around.  For investors as well as self-employed people like us, we need these products since we don't have a regular weekly paycheck!
Posted by Rick Tourgee - Provincetown and Cape Cod (Century 21 Shoreland) about 1 year ago

Neal - That's a very good question.  The thing that the Investor should realize(if selling is his/her Exit Strategy) is that seasoning may be an issue for the potential buyer in getting financing to buy the property at a new and enhanced sales price.  It's better to address that issue up front and make sure the buyer has financing in place where this won't be an obstacle.  You raised an excellent point Neal!

Bill - Yes, just Pa for now.  Email me at jsardi@fcegi.com if you want me to drop you the name of my investor who does this and of what states they can do this in.  Perhaps they can help you out.

Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) about 1 year ago
Rick- Yes, there's definitely a legit market for these types of loans.
Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) about 1 year ago

its is great to see these type of loans coming back, it is a great sign for our industry

Posted by Rick Kellow about 1 year ago

While I don't mean to totally ignore Mr. Kellow, Hassan brings up a fantastic point.  Hassan, you bastard, where have you been?  I've always wanted to be a nurse, so thanks for the link.  New actions do bring new strength.  Speaking of which, I have an action and it involves a silver dollar and lube.  But you'll never read this, will you?  Don't matter to me, dress it up as you may... spam is spam.  Most folks are onto it by now.  I just like to talk and write to automated systems because it makes me feel smart:)

Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) 4 months ago

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